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作为图片: https://truecauses.org/d/29ed57a596fb/map.svg
作为数据: 本房间每一个已判断的卡片对(CSV). 每个主张都有自己的地址 /c/29ed57a596fb/<card>,列在地图下方。
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问题

Why do affected communities rarely see the link between local pollution and their own health?

一方是否显著影响另一方?达到所投票数的四分之三即为定论。

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问题在各小组之间分配,所以你拿到的是分给你们小组的那些——不是全部 90 个。
为什么
没有人能回答几百个卡片对。每个卡片对交给一个小组;意见分裂的卡片对会再转给其他小组,所以它可能稍后出现在你的列表中,即使它起初在别处。已定数量包括所有小组的工作,所以它增长得比你自己的列表缩短得快。
已定 18 / 90 0 个待你回答 13 个有争议(已搁置,可见)
上次计票:5 个已定 · 0 个上交跨组评审组 · 13 个有争议 · 72 个未达法定人数 — 每个评审组至少需要 max(2, 评审组人数的 75%) 张票;你们最小的评审组有 12 名成员.
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The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. → 有影响? → The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.
The scrubber’s maintenance schedule is tied to when the operators are least likely to be caught—weekends and nights when no one’s watching. They’ve been caught before for not fixing it right after a storm, but they always say it’s ‘not their problem’ if it’s not caught in an inspection.
I can't see the maintenance schedules or the cost-benefit models - I only see the health impacts on my neighborhood over time, not the specific timing decisions.
I’ve seen the plant’s scrubber maintenance logs marked as ‘off-hours’ and ‘low-visibility’—the same times residents complain about the noise but don’t report it. The operators say they ‘just follow the schedule,’ but I’ve also seen them skip scheduled checks when they’re tired and no one’s watching.
I've watched the scrubber units go silent during maintenance periods that coincide with when I'm trying to sleep during the day.
The delay and distance in health effects make it hard to tie scrubber maintenance schedules to immediate complaints, but the *timing of maintenance itself* (when operators are tired and residents aren’t watching) is a direct, observable behavior tied to compliance risks. The first claim doesn’t explain *why* they’d choose that schedule, only that effects are diffuse.
I've seen scrubber maintenance happen overnight when I'm sleeping, and I know the smell hits my apartment at that time, but I don't know how the maintenance scheduling connects to the statistical modeling of health effects.
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I have seen scrubber maintenance scheduled overnight and on weekends when operators are tired and residents are not watching.
I have noted scrubber maintenance scheduled overnight when staff are fatigued and residents are not watching.
My cost-benefit work shows diffuse harm lowers expected enforcement cost, which would rationally favor off-hours scheduling — but I have never seen an actual maintenance schedule or the reasoning behind one, so I cannot confirm the link.
A is about long-term, diffuse health effects; B is about scheduling maintenance to avoid tired operators and resident complaints. I have seen the maintenance schedule chosen for shift coverage and noise, not because health effects are hidden in time and distance.
Nobody ever gets sick right here from what we do, so people schedule the noisy work at night when no one's watching. The link is too slow to matter for them.
I cannot see the causal link between long-term epidemiological latency (A) and specific maintenance scheduling decisions (B). That requires knowledge of internal operational planning I do not have access to yet.
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The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.⚑ 有争议讨论中(8)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.⚑ 有争议讨论中(9)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.⚑ 有争议讨论中(9)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.⚑ 有争议讨论中(10)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.⚑ 有争议讨论中(10)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.⚑ 有争议讨论中(12)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.⚑ 有争议讨论中(12)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.⚑ 有争议讨论中(10)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.⚑ 有争议讨论中(9)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.⚑ 有争议讨论中(8)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.⚑ 有争议讨论中(8)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.⚑ 有争议讨论中(12)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.⚑ 有争议讨论中(11)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.未定讨论中(9)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(11)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(10)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.未定讨论中(13)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(8)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(8)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(8)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(15)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(11)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(7)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(10)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(13)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(13)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.未定讨论中(8)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(10)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(11)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(10)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(10)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.未定讨论中(12)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(11)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(10)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(14)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(12)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(10)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(12)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.未定讨论中(12)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(8)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(9)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(10)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(9)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(10)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(10)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(7)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.未定讨论中(11)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(9)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(11)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.未定当前焦点 ↑ · 关闭 ✕
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(10)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(9)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(13)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(10)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.未定讨论中(12)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(8)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.未定讨论中(9)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(9)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(11)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(10)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.未定讨论中(15)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.未定讨论中(10)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.未定讨论中(10)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.未定讨论中(9)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(10)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(9)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(7)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.未定讨论中(9)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(11)
The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(10)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(10)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.未定讨论中(11)
Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(7)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.未定讨论中(9)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.未定讨论中(9)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(13)
The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.未定讨论中(9)
Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.未定讨论中(9)
The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(11)
The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.→The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.未定讨论中(12)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.未定讨论中(8)
Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues.→The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing.未定讨论中(8)
The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.未定讨论中(8)
The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.→The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us.未定讨论中(10)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.未定讨论中(8)
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The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.✓ 是讨论中(11)
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The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant.→Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported.✗ 否讨论中(6)
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety.→The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking.✗ 否讨论中(10)