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Why do affected communities rarely see the link between local pollution and their own health?
Да ли једно значајно утиче на друго? Одлучују три четвртине датих гласова.
затворено · назад на фазу Акције
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Питања се расподељују између група, па добијате она која су дата вашој групи — не свих 90.
решено: 18 / 90 за ваш одговор: 0 спорно: 13 (склоњено, видљиво) зашто
Нико не би могао да одговори на неколико стотина парова. Сваки пар иде једној групи; пар на коме се панел подели затим се упућује другим групама, па може касније да се појави на вашем списку иако је почео негде другде. Број решених укључује рад свих група, зато расте брже него што се ваш списак смањује.
Последње пребројавање: решено: 5 · прослеђено панелима више група: 0 · спорно: 13 · испод кворума: 72 — панелима треба најмање max(2, 75% панела) датих гласова; ваш најмањи панел има 12 чланова.
Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. → утиче на? → The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs.
I’ve heard the plant’s foreman say the permits are just paperwork—they don’t mean the same thing as ‘safe.’ The company’s been fined before for exceeding limits, but the foreman’s told me the rules are written so tight, they can’t prove the water’s actually safe even if they meet the numbers.
I cannot say from what I know whether permit structures directly cause floor workers to stay silent, since I don't have direct observation of that causal mechanism.
модератор I've seen the tension between the guys on the floor and the management when safety measures are discussed. They're caught between a rock and a hard place.
the author's claim about the impact of fear of losing jobs on compliance is based on their own experience as a reporter, and the author's own experience as a reporter, and the author's own experience as a reporter
I have heard floor workers express fear of speaking up because they need the job
Permit law and worker silence are plausible links, but nothing in the cost and compliance datasets I work with shows whether legal insulation actually suppresses worker reporting — that's below my line of sight.
I've seen the floor workers know what's going on and stay silent because they need the money and fear losing their jobs. The permit system makes compliance the only legal metric, so speaking up looks like defiance and risks their livelihood. That's a direct link I've watched from both sides.
I have seen the gap between public statements and permitting meetings, but I do not have direct knowledge of the specific fears or motivations of the floor workers regarding their job security.
Завршена фаза — запис парова и гласова стоји изнад.Провери логику ↗
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (8) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (9) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (9) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (10) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (10) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (12) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (12) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (10) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (9) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (8) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (8) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (12) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | ⚑ спорно | дискусија (11) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | отворено | дискусија (13) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (15) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (7) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (13) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (13) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | отворено | дискусија (12) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (14) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (12) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (12) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | отворено | дискусија (12) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (7) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | отворено | дискусија (13) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (13) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | отворено | дискусија (12) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | отворено | дискусија (15) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (7) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (7) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (13) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | отворено | дискусија (9) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (11) |
| The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | → | The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | отворено | дискусија (12) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| Pollution's effects are often subtle and delayed, making it difficult for affected communities to connect local pollution to immediate health issues. | → | The rules say we must *wait* for the next inspection before we can even ask if the creek’s changing. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | отворено | дискусија (8) |
| The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | → | The companies keep their reports vague and hide the worst releases, so we don't know what's hurting us. | отворено | дискусија (10) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | отворено | у фокусу ↑ · затвори ✕ |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | Health effects get averaged into regional statistics, so no community sees its own numbers. | ✓ да | дискусија (8) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | ✓ да | дискусија (11) |
| The guys on the floor know but won't speak up, afraid of losing their jobs. | → | The rules say we have to report *average* emissions, not what’s actually pouring into that one creek every afternoon. | ✗ не | дискусија (14) |
| The link is hidden in time and distance — health effects show up years later, far from any single plant. | → | Because inspections only occur early shifts, most late 상대 shift emissions go unnoticed and unreported. | ✗ не | дискусија (6) |
| Permits legally separate emission limits from community health so compliance never proves safety. | → | The scrubber maintenance is scheduled when we're all tired and when residents aren't looking. | ✗ не | дискусија (10) |