Structure · Why does environmental regulation get weakened?

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Why does environmental regulation get weakened?

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Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment. → influences? → Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.

The author's experience of not being able to comment on a rule due to a conflicting activity (sanding fenders) is directly related to the claim about rulemaking notice periods.

I’ve watched how the same people who draft rules later tweak them to fit what industry tells them to. The notice periods are always set for when I’m not around, and I’ve seen how the final rules end up with loopholes that make compliance harder for everyone else.

I see the timing problem with notice periods, but I don't see how that connects to industry testing drafts with ex-regulators - those appear to be different mechanisms

moderator I've seen industry representatives submit comments during notice periods, but they're not always representative of small businesses like the one in claim A.

I have seen industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.

I have sat in pre-proposal briefings where draft language was workshopped with former regulators before any public notice period opened; the small-shop comment gap and that channel are separate paths, and the first does not produce the second.

I have seen that notice periods are announced during my work hours, so I never get a chance to comment.

I have seen rulemaking notice periods fall while I'm sanding fenders, leaving no time to comment.

I've seen the guys who do the paperwork on the floor, and they're not the ones who get to comment on the rules.

I am shocked by how internal politics shape outcomes; if industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, they bypass the notice period entirely, making my inability to comment irrelevant because the rules are already fixed.

I have seen notice periods fall during work hours and I have seen industry test drafts with ex-regulators, but I have not seen the first one cause the second one.

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Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	⚑ contested	discussing (9)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	⚑ contested	discussing (9)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (16)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (12)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (9)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (13)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (12)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (14)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (10)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (12)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (11)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (11)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (10)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (12)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (12)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (11)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (12)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (10)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (10)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (15)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (8)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (12)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (12)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (10)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (10)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (10)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (9)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (8)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (9)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (14)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (8)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (13)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (12)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (9)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (8)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (10)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (7)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (11)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (11)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (10)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (11)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (11)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (8)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (13)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (13)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (10)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (12)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (11)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (13)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (9)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (13)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (9)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (11)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (8)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (15)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (9)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (12)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (9)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (10)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (10)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (12)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (8)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (18)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (8)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (9)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (16)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (10)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (8)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (9)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	open	discussing (7)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (10)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (9)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (7)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	open	discussing (9)
Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	open	discussing (12)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (10)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	open	discussing (6)
Rules weaken because officials who leave the agency for industry can return, so they water down rules.	→	Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	open	discussing (11)
Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	→	The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	open	discussing (11)
The studies driving repeal are funded by industry, so the evidence base itself skews toward cutting rules.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (10)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (13)
Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (6)
Weakened environmental regulation often occurs due to powerful economic interests lobbying against stricter laws.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	open	discussing (11)
Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	→	Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	open	discussing (13)
Rules get weakened because full enforcement would bankrupt small shops, and politicians know it.	→	Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	open	discussing (14)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Rules get written for big corporations, and small shops like mine can't afford to follow them, so they get gutted.	open	discussing (10)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Flares happen at night when I'm sleeping, but I still pay the medical bills when my son has asthma attacks from the haze.	✓ yes	discussing (9)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	✗ no	discussing (9)
Our teams weaken regulations to clear permits faster.	→	Because lawmakers cut the enforcement budget to save money, making inspectors like me scarce and enforcement weaker.	✗ no	discussing (9)
Rulemaking notice periods happen while I'm sanding fenders, so I never get to comment.	→	Industry tests drafts with ex-regulators, so the final rules already have known workarounds.	✗ no	in focus ↑ · close ✕