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As data: every judged pair in this room (CSV). Each claim has its own address, /c/55824a6/<card>, listed under the map.
Credit when you publish: Causal map: True Causes, https://truecauses.org/d/55824a6
THE QUESTION

Why do we stay inside echo chambers?

Propose what to do, then judge whether each action would move each root.

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30 at the table (29 simulated) · 3 actions proposed against 4 root causes. Add one, then judge whether each action moves each cause.
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Some claims influence each other in a circle
↺ We built for a scale nobody had governed befor → Nobody agrees on who should decide what is tru → Ad money rewards volume of attention, not qual
A circle can be a real finding — a cycle that feeds itself — or a link whose direction was never really settled. The map treats the group as one node, so nothing inside it is a root on its own. If it is the second, the pair is worth putting back to the room.
Score the roots first
why
The method's own practice, before any action is proposed: each root cause is scored 1–5 on how feasible it is to address, how much impact addressing it would have, and how likely it is to resolve by itself with no intervention. Priority goes to roots with high impact, high feasibility and low likelihood of fixing themselves — priority = impact + feasibility − likelihood. Scores are averaged across the group and shown with how many scored.
1 = low, 5 = high. Your own scores; the group's averages beside them.
root causefeasibleimpactfixes itselfpriority
The metric was chosen because it was easy to log––––
Ranking optimises for time spent, not for being informed––––
Regulation asks for transparency reports nobody can verify––––
Researchers ask for data and legal says no––––
Would each action move each root cause?
Down the side: the actions people proposed. Across the top: the root causes the map found. Every square is one vote on one question — would this action significantly reduce that cause? One side has to reach 75% of the votes cast to settle it; short of that the square stays split. Each square shows how its votes fell — yes / worse / no — and a square is settled when one of those reaches three quarters of them.
why
Answered at 75% of votes cast, like every other question here. Split means people voted and neither side reached that bar — it is a result, not a queue, and it stays split until enough people change their minds. A square nobody settles stays undecided; it never turns into a no. Judging each pair on its own is what stops a popular action being credited with fixing things it does not touch.
ACTIONROOT CAUSES · does the action on the left reduce it?
The metric was chosen because it was easy to logRanking optimises for time spent, not for being informedRegulation asks for transparency reports nobody can verifyResearchers ask for data and legal says no
Give safety work a metric and headcount discuss✗ no, it does not
4 yes / 0 worse / 25 no
not decided yet
⚑ the group split
8 yes / 0 worse / 21 no
not decided yet
Independent audit access under a legal safe harbour discuss✓ yes, it reduces this
27 yes / 0 worse / 2 no
not decided yet
✗ no, it does not
5 yes / 0 worse / 24 no
not decided yet
Publish a ranking change log anyone can read discuss✗ no, it does not
6 yes / 0 worse / 23 no
not decided yet
✗ no, it does not
2 yes / 0 worse / 27 no
not decided yet
Highest leverage so far
Independent audit access under a legal safe harbour reduces 1 of 4 root causes
THE ACTIONS ON THE MAP
Showing every action the room judged: it acts directly on 1 of the 4 root causes. It does not act directly on 3.
Read from the squares the room settled at Actions, nothing else. A root in green is reduced by at least one of the shown actions; in grey, none of them acts on it directly; a red outline means one of them makes it worse.
Regulation asks for transparency reports nobody can verify → People choose the sources that already agree with themThere is no reviewer who speaks the language of half the reports → Automated removal is cheaper than being rightRanking optimises for time spent, not for being informed → Researchers ask for data and legal says noRanking optimises for time spent, not for being informed → A moderator sees the worst of it for the wage of a call centreWe built for a scale nobody had governed before → Nobody agrees on who should decide what is trueEvery fix ships to the users who complain loudest → We cannot publish what we remove without teaching people to evade itEvery fix ships to the users who complain loudest → The people affected worst are in markets we do not staffEvery fix ships to the users who complain loudest → Ad money rewards volume of attention, not quality of itThe metric was chosen because it was easy to log → Ranking optimises for time spent, not for being informedThe rules are written in one country and applied in forty languages → There is no reviewer who speaks the language of half the reportsResearchers ask for data and legal says no → Recommendation systems are not inspectable from outsideResearchers ask for data and legal says no → The rules are written in one country and applied in forty languagesThe rules are forty pages and the decision takes twelve seconds → Recommendation systems are not inspectable from outsideThe rules are forty pages and the decision takes twelve seconds → Automated removal is cheaper than being rightPeople choose the sources that already agree with them → Every fix ships to the users who complain loudestA moderator sees the worst of it for the wage of a call centre → The rules are forty pages and the decision takes twelve secondsNobody agrees on who should decide what is true → Ad money rewards volume of attention, not quality of itNobody outside can reproduce a single claim we make → Nobody agrees on who should decide what is trueAd money rewards volume of attention, not quality of it → We built for a scale nobody had governed beforeRegulation asks for transparency reports nobody can verifyRegulation asks fortransparency reports nobodycan verifywhat the shown actions do to this root causeNO ACTION ACTS ON ITDIRECTLYThe metric was chosen because it was easy to log ② Independent audit access under a legal safe harbourThe metric was chosenbecause it was easy to log②what the shown actions do to this root causeREDUCED BY 1 ACTIONNobody outside can reproduce a single claim we makeNobody outside canreproduce a single claim wemakeRanking optimises for time spent, not for being informedRanking optimises for timespent, not for beinginformedwhat the shown actions do to this root causeNO ACTION ACTS ON ITDIRECTLYPeople choose the sources that already agree with themPeople choose the sourcesthat already agree withthemA moderator sees the worst of it for the wage of a call centreA moderator sees the worstof it for the wage of acall centreResearchers ask for data and legal says noResearchers ask for dataand legal says nowhat the shown actions do to this root causeNO ACTION ACTS ON ITDIRECTLYEvery fix ships to the users who complain loudestEvery fix ships to theusers who complain loudestThe rules are forty pages and the decision takes twelve secondsThe rules are forty pagesand the decision takestwelve secondsThe rules are written in one country and applied in forty languagesThe rules are written inone country and applied inforty languagesThe people affected worst are in markets we do not staffThe people affected worstare in markets we do notstaffWe cannot publish what we remove without teaching people to evade itWe cannot publish what weremove without teachingpeople to evade itAd money rewards volume of attention, not quality of itAd money rewards volume ofattention, not quality ofitpart of a feedback loop⟳Nobody agrees on who should decide what is trueNobody agrees on who shoulddecide what is truepart of a feedback loop⟳We built for a scale nobody had governed beforeWe built for a scale nobodyhad governed beforepart of a feedback loop⟳Recommendation systems are not inspectable from outsideRecommendation systems arenot inspectable fromoutsideThere is no reviewer who speaks the language of half the reportsThere is no reviewer whospeaks the language of halfthe reportsAutomated removal is cheaper than being rightAutomated removal ischeaper than being right
Each number on the map marks a root cause that action reduces.
① Give safety work a metric and headcount
② Independent audit access under a legal safe harbour
③ Publish a ranking change log anyone can read
What we expect to follow
Predictions about the actions: what each should change, how to measure it, and when to check. On the date, someone who was in the room writes what actually happened beside it.
why
A map says which actions move which causes. It does not say whether anyone did them, or whether anything changed. An entry here is a prediction with a date and something to measure, written after the map settled. When the date comes, what actually happened is written beside it and the prediction stays as it was: a wrong one is the useful kind. Nobody voted on any of this and it changes nothing the room found.
due 24 Mar 2027
actionPublish a ranking change log anyone can read
we expecta change to what people see is visible to the people who see it
measured by% of ranking changes appearing in a public log within a month
guessesthe room: 40 (median of 15, spread 15 to 70)