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Why do affected communities rarely see the link between local pollution and their own health?
Существенно ли одно влияет на другое? Решают три четверти поданных голосов.
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Вопросы распределяются между группами, поэтому вы получаете те, что достались вашей группе, — а не все 90.
решено: 25 / 90 ждут вашего ответа: 0 спорно: 18 (отложено, видно) почему
Никто не смог бы ответить на несколько сотен пар. Каждая пара достается одной группе; пара, по которой мнения разделились, затем передается другим группам, поэтому она может позже появиться в вашем списке, хотя началась в другом месте. Число решенных включает работу всех групп, поэтому оно растет быстрее, чем сокращается ваш список.
Последний подсчет: решено: 7 · передано панелям из нескольких групп: 0 · спорно: 18 · ниже кворума: 65 — панелям нужно не меньше max(2, 75% панели) поданных голосов; в вашей самой маленькой панели 12 участников.
Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. → влияет на? → I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*.
I have seen data withheld from communities.
I have seen the permit documents and know they are not shared with the community directly.
I've never seen the plant's permit or water test results, so I can't say if not seeing them affects the lack of identifiable causes.
No further information is available, so I answer with *nothing*.
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I've seen how the public reporting is framed, but I don't see how that influences the person's inability to identify a cause not already listed.
I have never seen the permit or any water test results, and I have never seen a wall with fifteen reasons on it, so I cannot say the first has anything to do with the second.
The two claims are independent: A is about lack of transparency on permits/water tests, B is about a wall of fifteen reasons and answering 'nothing.' No causal link exists between them.
I have seen my community's treaty-based water rights repeatedly ignored as permits and water test results are withheld, and the standard being weakened is the same one negotiated against decades ago, so people forgetting benefits those who weaken it, directly relating to the information gap in pair 4.
модератор I have no first-hand knowledge of either claim, and lack of permit access and a wall of fifteen existing reasons are separate mechanisms — one does not drive the other.
Этап завершен — запись пар и голосов приведена выше.Проверить логику ↗
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (5) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (11) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (12) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (15) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (12) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (8) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (10) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (11) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (9) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (10) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (12) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | ⚑ спорно | обсуждение (7) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | открыто | обсуждение (15) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | открыто | обсуждение (13) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | открыто | обсуждение (12) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (12) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (15) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (6) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (9) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (9) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | открыто | обсуждение (4) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | открыто | обсуждение (13) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | открыто | обсуждение (12) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (14) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (9) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | открыто | обсуждение (13) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | обсуждение (9) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | обсуждение (6) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (15) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | в фокусе ↑ · закрыть ✕ |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | открыто | обсуждение (6) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | открыто | обсуждение (10) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (6) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | открыто | обсуждение (9) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (6) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | открыто | обсуждение (12) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | открыто | обсуждение (13) |
| Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | открыто | обсуждение (6) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| The rollback language I draft removes the legal requirement to study health impacts, so the link is never formally made. | → | Communities lack political representation to demand health impact studies, so the pollution-health link is never formally investigated. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | открыто | обсуждение (9) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | открыто | обсуждение (12) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | открыто | обсуждение (8) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | открыто | обсуждение (7) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | Nobody ever shows us the permit or tells us what's in the water, so we can't connect it to our sickness. | открыто | обсуждение (11) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | ✓ да | обсуждение (11) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | The enforcement numbers are based on arbitrary standards set by people far away from the communities I work with. | ✓ да | обсуждение (11) |
| We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | → | They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | ✓ да | обсуждение (9) |
| Because the people who write the rules never come back to tell you how the rules broke your creek—and how it’s making you sick. | → | Union rep for plant workers says a shutdown for non‑compliance costs jobs immediately, while a weak rule endangers his members' health for over twenty years and he must choose which fight to pursue. | ✗ нет | обсуждение (9) |
| I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | → | We frame health risks as industry-wide trends, not site-specific hazards, in our public reporting. | ✗ нет | обсуждение (6) |
| I know the 'safe' number I'm writing into law was never meant to protect the people living near the plant. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | ✗ нет | обсуждение (8) |
| They keep weakening the water standard my treaty rights depend on, and never explain the health link to us. | → | I cannot identify a cause that is not already listed because the wall already contains fifteen distinct reasons. Therefore, I answer with the word *nothing*. | ✗ нет | обсуждение (6) |