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Why does environmental regulation get weakened?

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decididos: 10 / 90 para responder: 0 disputados: 8 (à parte, visíveis)

Última contagem: decididos 2 · enviados a painéis entre grupos 0 · disputados 8 · abaixo do quórum 80 — os painéis precisam de pelo menos max(2, 75% do painel) votos expressos; o seu painel mais pequeno tem 12 membros.

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Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant. → influencia? → Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.

I review lobbying reports, and while industry pressure exists, it is driven by funding, not by whether downstream residents are consulted.

The author does not mention any evidence that industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written, so the second claim cannot be judged.

I've seen the creek change color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day. This makes me think that the lack of transparency about spills could influence the claim that industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written. I've also seen the 2am discharge, the weekend dumping, the stuff that never shows up in a daytime audit. This makes me think that the lack of transparency about spills could be related to the influence of industry pressure on lawmakers.

The author knows that officials have no direct contact with downstream residents, leading to reliance on plant reports, but they cannot say how this influences industry pressure reaching lawmakers.

I have seen lawmakers prioritize donor requests.

A describes a lack of community consultation in regulation, while B describes industry influence on legislation. Both reflect systemic issues but A does not directly cause or significantly influence B.

moderador First-hand: I sit in meetings where the only information about the creek comes from the plant's own reports. That is a fact about how regulators listen. It does not, however, cause donors to reach me before drafting — those are two different pressure points.

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Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (9)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (8)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (9)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	⚑ disputado	em foco ↑ · fechar ✕
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (11)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (10)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (9)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	⚑ disputado	em discussão (8)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (18)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	em aberto	em discussão (15)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	em aberto	em discussão (11)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	em aberto	em discussão (12)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (13)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	em aberto	em discussão (11)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (12)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (4)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	em aberto	em discussão (11)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (6)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	em aberto	em discussão (14)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (6)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	em aberto	em discussão (14)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (6)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	em aberto	em discussão (13)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (12)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (13)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (11)
Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	Industry pressure reaches lawmakers before bills are written.	em aberto	em discussão (6)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	→	I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Nobody ever posts the permit or test results where folks downstream can read them.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	em aberto	em discussão (10)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (9)
I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	→	Environmental regulation gets weakened because it's repackaged as modernization or flexibility, dressed up as reform.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
As experienced regulators retire, critical institutional knowledge is lost, making it easier for industry to dismantle hard-won protections from within.	→	Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	The creek changes color some mornings and nobody ever tells us what happened that day.	em aberto	em discussão (7)
I see the plant's name on the library and the fire trucks, and that makes enforcement feel like punishment.	→	I draft the language myself and know which words kill enforcement before anyone reads the bill.	em aberto	em discussão (8)
Lobbying by businesses reduces support for rules.	→	Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	✓ sim	em discussão (16)
Downstream communities suffer health impacts from untreated effluent, but their concerns go unheard in rule-making.	→	Nobody ever asks the people living downstream, so the folks who make the rules only hear from the plant.	✓ sim	em discussão (12)