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THE QUESTION

Why are corrections never as loud as the claim?

Does one significantly influence the other? Three quarters of the votes cast decide.

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A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed → influences? → The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news
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Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumedopen escalateddiscuss
The metric is claims processed→Editors ask whether anyone else has run itopen escalateddiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every fieldopendiscuss
The metric is claims processed→We label the claim and cannot label the confidenceopendiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→We cover the row about the change, never the change✓ yesdiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✓ yesdiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✓ yesdiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✓ yesdiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✓ yesdiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✓ yesdiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✓ yesdiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✓ yesdiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✓ yesdiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✓ yesdiscuss
The metric is claims processed→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✓ yesdiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✓ yesdiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✓ yesdiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✓ yesdiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→The metric is claims processed✓ yesdiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✓ yesdiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✓ yesdiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✓ yesdiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✓ yesdiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✓ inferreddiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✓ inferreddiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→The metric is claims processed✓ inferreddiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✓ inferreddiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✗ nodiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ noin focus ↑ · close ✕
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
We cover the row about the change, never the change→Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed✗ nodiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric→The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed✗ nodiscuss
Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→Nobody measures whether our corrections reach the people who saw the claim✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→We cover the row about the change, never the change✗ nodiscuss
The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it→Checking the powerful is slower per claim, so it loses on the metric✗ nodiscuss
Being first is rewarded and being right is assumed→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
The quiet revision is not an event, so it is not news→Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow✗ nodiscuss
Being wrong in public costs an institution more than being slow→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
There is no news hook for 'the advice changed and nobody said'→Checking an institution takes weeks and checking a tweet takes an hour✗ nodiscuss
A correction arrives long after the decision it should have changed→The bodies that issue guidance also fund those who check it✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
The metric is claims processed→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
The metric is claims processed→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
The metric is claims processed→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
The metric is claims processed→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✗ nodiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
Editors ask whether anyone else has run it→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→The metric is claims processed✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported→A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field✗ nodiscuss
The metric is claims processed→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
By the time we could confirm it, it was old→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✗ nodiscuss
We are asked to check claims, not the guidance that generated them→By the time we could confirm it, it was old✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical✗ nodiscuss
Our funding is project-based and follows whatever is topical→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✗ nodiscuss
The metric is claims processed→We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how✗ nodiscuss
Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→We label the claim and cannot label the confidence✗ nodiscuss
We label the claim and cannot label the confidence→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→Guidance was stated more confidently than the evidence supported✗ nodiscuss
A newsroom cannot hold a specialist for every field→Editors ask whether anyone else has run it✗ nodiscuss
We say we are independent and the audience is right to ask how→Nobody is checking the structure that produced the claim✗ nodiscuss