THE QUESTION
Why do school leavers not find work here?
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How this dialogue measures
why
The indicators the method's own practitioners use to judge a dialogue's quality (Laouris & Metcalf 2024, Table 7), computed from this record so it can be compared with the hundreds of face-to-face and virtual dialogues behind their baselines. Spreadthink is the share of ideas that got at least one vote: 100% means everyone voted only for their own, and it usually settles to 25–45% once meaning has been shared. Situational complexity falls as more ideas are structured.
ideas (N)
36 usual: 50–100
36 usual: 50–100
with 1+ vote / 2+ votes
24 / 19
24 / 19
spreadthink
61.3% usual: 25–55
61.3% usual: 25–55
demosensus
38.7%
38.7%
clusters (dimensions)
5
5
cards in a cluster
27.8%
27.8%
structured / levels / links
20 / 7 / 18
20 / 7 / 18
situational complexity
0.84
0.84
minds moved
—
—
cards hidden by the steward
0
0
pairs contested
0
0
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Every room’s map folded into one. Dark, thick lines were certified by two or more rooms; grey dashed by one; dotted grey only by rooms that do not count; dashed red is a dispute. A green card with ×N is a claim N rooms raised on their own; the caption says so. Hover a link or a claim for the rooms behind it. — 2 links certified by two or more rooms · 0 contested · 65 links in all.
counted Why do school leavers not fi · steward trusted by this instance
counted Why is there no work here fo · steward trusted by this instance
counted Why do young people leave to · steward trusted by this instance
Dotted grey: a link certified only by rooms that do not count — shown, never a verdict. Hover a link for which rooms certified it and which said no; hover a claim for where it was raised and any evidence attached.
As a list — 65 links, graded by how many rooms found each; and 4 claims raised in more than one room
RAISED IN MORE THAN ONE ROOM
◆ Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year 3 rooms
◆ The jobs here do not need what school taught 3 rooms
◆ Young people leave and do not come back 3 rooms
◆ Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom 3 rooms
EVERY LINK · solid and thicker: found by more rooms · dashed grey: one room
Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom → The jobs here do not need what school taught 3 rooms
Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year → Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom 2 rooms
A driving licence is the real entry requirement and nobody says so → We hire on attitude and cannot test for it 1 room
A driving licence is the real entry requirement and nobody says so → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
A part-time job pays now and a course pays in four years → A teacher is measured on results, not on what happens after 1 room
A placement week is arranged by whoever knows someone → We have no idea where last year's leavers went 1 room
A teacher is measured on results, not on what happens after → We have no idea where last year's leavers went 1 room
Attendance is the problem behind most of the others → A placement week is arranged by whoever knows someone 1 room
Attendance is the problem behind most of the others → The college is in the next town and the last bus is at six 1 room
Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year → Nobody teaches how to be interviewed 1 room
Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year → Nobody explained what to wear or when to arrive 1 room
Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year → The careers website is a list of jobs, not of how to get one 1 room
Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year → Nobody told me what any of these jobs pay 1 room
Everyone I know who did well left → Staying feels like giving up on something 1 room
Everyone I know who did well left → I would have stayed for a job that went somewhere 1 room
Everyone I know who did well left → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
Everyone I know who did well left → Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom 1 room
I did not know that job existed until I met someone doing it → Nobody told me what any of these jobs pay 1 room
I got one week's placement in a place nobody chose for me → The only people who told me to stay had already left and come back 1 room
I would have stayed for a job that went somewhere → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
My teachers were proud of me for going and sad for the town → The jobs here do not need what school taught 1 room
My teachers were proud of me for going and sad for the town → Staying feels like giving up on something 1 room
Nobody has ever asked us what we would need to take a school leaver → There is no employer group here that anyone convenes 1 room
Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom → Half the applicants do not turn up to the interview 1 room
Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom → There is no single person in the school to ring 1 room
Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom → One bad placement cost us a week of a supervisor 1 room
Nobody told me what any of these jobs pay → Taking a low-paid apprenticeship felt like a luxury I could not afford 1 room
One bad placement cost us a week of a supervisor → We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing 1 room
One bad placement cost us a week of a supervisor → Recruiting takes the owner's evenings 1 room
Recruiting takes the owner's evenings → We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing 1 room
Recruiting takes the owner's evenings → There is no single person in the school to ring 1 room
Staying feels like giving up on something → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
The application asked for experience I could not have had → Without a car you cannot take most of these jobs 1 room
The application asked for experience I could not have had → I did not apply because I assumed I would not get it 1 room
The application asked for experience I could not have had → Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom 1 room
The apprenticeship application closes before the exam results → The jobs here do not need what school taught 1 room
The apprenticeship application closes before the exam results → There are eleven apprenticeships in this town and four hundred leavers 1 room
The bus to the college costs four pounds a day → A teacher is measured on results, not on what happens after 1 room
The bus to the college costs four pounds a day → A part-time job pays now and a course pays in four years 1 room
The careers website is a list of jobs, not of how to get one → The only people who told me to stay had already left and come back 1 room
The college is in the next town and the last bus is at six → The bus to the college costs four pounds a day 1 room
The council asks us for skills forecasts we cannot make → Nobody has ever asked us what we would need to take a school leaver 1 room
The jobs here do not need what school taught → One bad placement cost us a week of a supervisor 1 room
The jobs here do not need what school taught → We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing 1 room
The jobs here do not need what school taught → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
The jobs here do not need what school taught → Without a car you cannot take most of these jobs 1 room
The last three we trained left within a year → Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year 1 room
The last three we trained left within a year → We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing 1 room
The only people who told me to stay had already left and come back → The careers website is a list of jobs, not of how to get one 1 room
The school sent us the pupils they wanted out of the building → The jobs here do not need what school taught 1 room
The school sent us the pupils they wanted out of the building → One bad placement cost us a week of a supervisor 1 room
The school sent us the pupils they wanted out of the building → There is no single person in the school to ring 1 room
The technical route is described to parents as the fallback → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
There are eleven apprenticeships in this town and four hundred leavers → Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year 1 room
There are eleven apprenticeships in this town and four hundred leavers → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
There is no single person in the school to ring → The jobs here do not need what school taught 1 room
We asked to visit and never heard back → Nobody has ever asked us what we would need to take a school leaver 1 room
We asked to visit and never heard back → Young people leave and do not come back 1 room
We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing → The jobs here do not need what school taught 1 room
We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing → Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom 1 room
We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing → Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year 1 room
We cannot afford the time it takes to train someone from nothing → Recruiting takes the owner's evenings 1 room
We would take four a year if someone organised it → The council asks us for skills forecasts we cannot make 1 room
Young people leave and do not come back → Nobody teaches how to be interviewed 1 room
Young people leave and do not come back → The council asks us for skills forecasts we cannot make 1 room
Connections several groups found (2 of 65)
| Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom | → | The jobs here do not need what school taught | 3 groups |
| Careers advice is one afternoon in the final year | → | Nobody in a position to hire ever visits a classroom | 2 groups |